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clinton. she now is trying to work to repair any remaining damage, if there is one. but there is another overlooked headline that deserves more attention than it got and it's how clinton aligns and distances herself from the administration to best position herself for 2016. there were two politico pieces that brought up this issue in the past week, particularly on the topic of iran. will, for instance, former secretary of state hillary clinton publicly react to the nuclear deal? and if so, how? a current decision is to stay silent and there's a lot of good reasons to stay silent. while she's cautiously optimistic about the deal, the implication is that she still has some lingering concerns and perhaps she wouldn't have been comfortable negotiating it the way john kerry was comfortable doing it. while she doesn't want to be out-israeled by anybody, she also doesn't want to look like she is undermining her successor at the state department. so the hardest aspect on her noncandidacy will be how successfully she navigates or doesn't the second-guessing of the current adm
clinton. she now is trying to work to repair any remaining damage, if there is one. but there is another overlooked headline that deserves more attention than it got and it's how clinton aligns and distances herself from the administration to best position herself for 2016. there were two politico pieces that brought up this issue in the past week, particularly on the topic of iran. will, for instance, former secretary of state hillary clinton publicly react to the nuclear deal? and if so, how?...
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but democrats really since clinton have adopted conservative values and conservative policies. health care being the obvious example. >> individual mandate. >> came out of the heritage institute. sprang out of hillary care in response to that. so, you know, i think that is in some ways part of the problem. what are you going to offer as your market-based solution to things like climate change when cap and trade is the market-based solution and you've already demonized that. what about when the affordable care act already is that and you have demonized it. i don't think they have anywhere to go to actually solve these problems anymore. >> yeah. i think the operative phrase there being what are you going to offer. >> exactly. >> all right. krystal ball, james peterson, thanks to both of you. >>> coming up, the latest on efforts to find a diplomatic solution with a nuclear iran. and what one congressman says is -- what one congressman says a worst-case scenario might look like. [ male announcer ] a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motio
but democrats really since clinton have adopted conservative values and conservative policies. health care being the obvious example. >> individual mandate. >> came out of the heritage institute. sprang out of hillary care in response to that. so, you know, i think that is in some ways part of the problem. what are you going to offer as your market-based solution to things like climate change when cap and trade is the market-based solution and you've already demonized that. what...
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of course he became great friends with clinton and carter because of their record of being against apartheid. i saw will smith in one of those pictures and harry bellefonte. there were enough of us and the people that were activists to give our country a good name in that country. we were lucky to make the change in the '80s. thanks again to the late bill grey. they took the lead. >> no doubt about it. ron delums, randall robinson. but i think people don't understand there were elements in this country that actually as late as the mid-80s was still calling nelson mandela and the anc terrorists. >> i know. >> yet he came out with a very forgiving spirit and rose above all of that. >> i think there's a lot of great leaders in south africa. we've lost some of them, of course. there's a lot of people down there that i'd love to see get back into government and really develop a really strong democratic tradition there. but you're right. there were people that, you know, pat buchanan and other people out there were saying they liked it the way it was, basically. who thought we could get there and
of course he became great friends with clinton and carter because of their record of being against apartheid. i saw will smith in one of those pictures and harry bellefonte. there were enough of us and the people that were activists to give our country a good name in that country. we were lucky to make the change in the '80s. thanks again to the late bill grey. they took the lead. >> no doubt about it. ron delums, randall robinson. but i think people don't understand there were elements...
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former president bill clinton and hillary clinton also expected to attend. no word yet if president obama will fly with presidents obama and bush. >>> weighing on on where he ranks of towering figures the last 100 years. take a listen. >> i think he and gandhi and in america martin luther king are in a category by themselves. gandhi and king were martyred. but the agonizing ordeal of nelson mandela for 27 years and how he came out a better man than when he went in captured the imagination of people as nothing else had. his enduring power is that he showed us that there is true freedom in forgiveness. >>> joining me now, civil rights leader and president of the rainbow push coalition, reverend jesse jackson. awfully glad to speak with you. you listened to president clinton. do you agree he belongs in the statues of history with gandhi, martin luther king jr. if not maybe at the top of the list? >> external persecution and the wil will, dignity. they were driven by their suffering. you define them by what they did with the pain. that is to say when mr. mandela
former president bill clinton and hillary clinton also expected to attend. no word yet if president obama will fly with presidents obama and bush. >>> weighing on on where he ranks of towering figures the last 100 years. take a listen. >> i think he and gandhi and in america martin luther king are in a category by themselves. gandhi and king were martyred. but the agonizing ordeal of nelson mandela for 27 years and how he came out a better man than when he went in captured the...
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you were at his inauguration representing the clinton white house. tell me what you saw. what did that mean? >> it was a wonderful occasion. i was privileged to be part of that delegation led by vice president gore and first lady hillary clinton. the most moving moment of all was when it was time for him to come up on stage to be inaugurated and to give his speech at the inauguration, it was a crowd like i've never seen before. some of my old best enemies were there. some of my folks i didn't have any use for from countries nowhere near the freedom south africa was about to enjoy. they were all there, all invited because some had helped nelson mandela with the struggle and he wouldn't abandon them now. finally the moment came when he said new president of south africa and he started up the stage. i'll never forget in my soldier's eyes the first ones who came on stage before him were senior officers, generals, admirals, south african defense force as a guard of honor. stared, my god, look at this. turning over the power of the state, the force of the state is now in the ha
you were at his inauguration representing the clinton white house. tell me what you saw. what did that mean? >> it was a wonderful occasion. i was privileged to be part of that delegation led by vice president gore and first lady hillary clinton. the most moving moment of all was when it was time for him to come up on stage to be inaugurated and to give his speech at the inauguration, it was a crowd like i've never seen before. some of my old best enemies were there. some of my folks i...
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he talks about bill clinton as explainer in chief. and bill clinton is great. but barack obama has got mad skills, because he clients that baptist preacher-like, slow cadence, where he can get the humor in there. and preachers will say god will slow walk you. and then he's got the peyton manning -- sorry for these analogies. peyton manning throws the ball before the receiver turns the ball to where it should be so he can receive it when it gets there. so what obama is hoping is that i'm going to put out there now. because a year from now, people aren't going to remember the roll-out stuff. it's going to be like thank god i went to the doctor and it wasn't the emergency ward and guess what? now i've got my diabetes under control, my chemotherapy here, my viagra. there will be millions of men who will rise to the occasion and say we are grateful for what he has done. >> i just caught that. the thing is, zerlina, i think it's actually true, as funny as that was -- and i'm glad you made that appointment, the website is such a fixation, particularly in terms of medi
he talks about bill clinton as explainer in chief. and bill clinton is great. but barack obama has got mad skills, because he clients that baptist preacher-like, slow cadence, where he can get the humor in there. and preachers will say god will slow walk you. and then he's got the peyton manning -- sorry for these analogies. peyton manning throws the ball before the receiver turns the ball to where it should be so he can receive it when it gets there. so what obama is hoping is that i'm going...
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i know he feels this is something that democrats have tried to do for decades and bill clinton whom everyone feels is such a great political figure was unable to get this health care passed and he, barack obama, did. he knows he's taking a big gamble but i'm not willing to say the failure of the website alone will kill the deal and great society. i don't think so. >> howard fineman, you have the two boys very energized right now. >> sec. >> yeah, man. >> deep freeze, downright bone chilling weather making its way across the country. we'll check in with our friends at the weather channel and spin on the city everyone is buzzing about today. there's much more in the cycle. [ male announcer ] at humana, understanding what makes you different is what makes us different. we take the time to get to know you and your unique health needs. then we help create a personalized healthcare experience that works for you. and you. and you. with 50 years of know-how, and a dedicated network of doctors, health coaches, and wellness experts, we're a partner you can rely on -- today, and tomorrow. we're going b
i know he feels this is something that democrats have tried to do for decades and bill clinton whom everyone feels is such a great political figure was unable to get this health care passed and he, barack obama, did. he knows he's taking a big gamble but i'm not willing to say the failure of the website alone will kill the deal and great society. i don't think so. >> howard fineman, you have the two boys very energized right now. >> sec. >> yeah, man. >> deep freeze,...
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now the spin nearly a year after leaving foggy bottom, hillary clinton's time at the state department is getting the traditional d.c. media slice and dice. a new article in politico poses the question if she was a good secretary of state. and goes on to quote, aaron david miller said hillary was risk adverse kerry is risk ready. explains part why she didn't own anni issue of consequence. there was only a matter of time. what do we think? i'll go first. >> thanks for clarifying. it doesn't matter about her time at state -- >> a conversation hold -- >> it's going to be about domestic issues. number two the the mud the gop will throw at her will have to deal with benghazi, these conversations about what's her place in history, is she dean rusk, john kerry? where does she fall? that doesn't matter for vote ares not to mention she won't get hit with that in the primary so the democrats can control her narrative of time and benghazi or everything else. she was able to get away from the health care debate and debt limit debate not having to get into domestic politics for that few years at th
now the spin nearly a year after leaving foggy bottom, hillary clinton's time at the state department is getting the traditional d.c. media slice and dice. a new article in politico poses the question if she was a good secretary of state. and goes on to quote, aaron david miller said hillary was risk adverse kerry is risk ready. explains part why she didn't own anni issue of consequence. there was only a matter of time. what do we think? i'll go first. >> thanks for clarifying. it doesn't...
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bush and former first lady laura bush and former secretary of state, hillary clinton, are also traveling on air force one with the obamas. former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter will also attend the event, but are traveling separately. president george h.w. bush could not attend. you can see the memorial service live on msnbc starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern time. >>> up next, republicans are still having some problems, some big problems talking to women voters. in the nation, sometimes bad things happen. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance and we'll replace stolen or destroyed items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ so ally bank has a that won't trap me in a rate. that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? uh, mark? go get help! i have my reasons. look, you don't have to feel trapped with our raise your rate cd. if our rate on this cd goes up, yours can too. oh that sounds nice. don't feel trapped with the ally raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. yo
bush and former first lady laura bush and former secretary of state, hillary clinton, are also traveling on air force one with the obamas. former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter will also attend the event, but are traveling separately. president george h.w. bush could not attend. you can see the memorial service live on msnbc starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern time. >>> up next, republicans are still having some problems, some big problems talking to women voters. in the nation,...
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it is expected that jimmy carter, bush the younger, bush the older, bill clinton and president obama will visit. dan rather just said that he should be considered the greatest leader of the second half of the 20th century. that is how he is viewed around the world. his stature in the world is something that few people have ever known in modern history let alone in history. as the details of the arrangements for the next few days emerge, we will bring them to you right hire. now it's time for the last word. >>> nelson mandela told his biographer men come and go, i have come, and i will go when my time comes. nelson mandela's time came today. >> i pledge to use all my strength and ability to live up to expectations. i am your servant. i don't come to you as a leader. >> nelson mandela has departed this earth at the age of 95. >> the founding president has departed. >> the day he was released from prison gave me a sense of what human beings can do when they're guided by their hopes and not their fears. >> na is the man the world has been waiting to see, his first public appearance in ne
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along with former secretary of state hillary clinton. and when the president rose to speak, what an ovation. >> president barack obama. [ cheers ] >> thank you. >> the president praised mandela's moral vision and courage. but said the great leader's work is unfinished. >> we know that like south africa, the united states had to overcome centuries of racial. it took people known and unknown to see the dawn of a new day. michelle and i are beneficiaries of that struggle. but in america and in south africa and in countries all around the globe, we cannot allow our progress to cloud the fact that our work is not yet done. and so we, too, must act on behalf of justice. we, too, must act on behalf of peace. >> mandela inspired countless people around the world including president obama who spoke from the heart in personal terms. >> it woke me up to my responsibilities to others and to myself and it sent me on an improbable journey that finds me here today. and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better
along with former secretary of state hillary clinton. and when the president rose to speak, what an ovation. >> president barack obama. [ cheers ] >> thank you. >> the president praised mandela's moral vision and courage. but said the great leader's work is unfinished. >> we know that like south africa, the united states had to overcome centuries of racial. it took people known and unknown to see the dawn of a new day. michelle and i are beneficiaries of that struggle....
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i think president bush, president obama all had very deep conversations, president clinton, with nelson mandela. and they all took his example and tried to figure out how do they embody it. his legacy to the united states is huge as it is to the rest of the world. and i think he taught us that we need to rise above the petty politics that can divide us. and i think his lesson is more relevant today than ever and whether it's in congress or in syria that we can all learn from his example. >> marc, here's the thing, he was not afraid to speak truth to power. not just in his country but in this country as well. >> it's so critical to remember and understand the evolution of the relationship between the official position of the united states and the emerging republic of south africa. because in the 1970s and in the 1980s, united states official foreign policy sided with the apartheid regime. it was president reagan that vetoed sanctions which really came about because of student activism and community activism. i was proud to be a part of those efforts. the divestment efforts. that movement
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between fidel castro and bill clinton. that doesn't quite show it. there was a rather warm exchange when obama first walked past raul castro, you can see the smile. they actually interacted. the white house issued a statement it was not a planned encounter. i knew the south african government did not tell them where anyone was sitting or what to expect. this was fraught with overtones, because of respect for the moment, that's what the president was doing. he was certainly not going to engage or disengage. >> what does one do one one is at a social occasion and encounters one not on the friendliest of terms. they shook hand. think what would be said if the president had somehow frostily turned away or contrived to not go the way he was going and shake hands. >> also in that group, the woman to the other side of raoul castro there. you see the kiss on both cheeks. this was a woman who canceled a state dinner because of the edward snowden -- >> very angry about the spying. that's been a big issue in brazil as you know, greenwald, the journalist who has
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jack kent had enterprise zones, bill clinton had empowerment zones. this is a new twist on an old idea. >> stick with me. we'll stay on this question of the old ideas and new ideas and whether we are a better country than this. up next, the movement demanding better jobs is growing exponentially even as the unemployment numbers are falling dramatically. we'll talk more with amy about the fast food workers debates. [ mom ] because we have people over so often, we've learned how to stretch our party budget. ♪ the only downer? my bargain brand towel made a mess of things. so goodbye so-called bargain brands, hello bounty basic. the affordably priced towel that's an actual bargain. watch how one select-a-size sheet of bounty basic is 50% stronger than a full sheet of the bargain brand. it takes a strong towel to stretch a budget. bounty basic. the strong but affordable picker upper. and try charmin basic. in the nation, what's precious to you is precious to us. ♪ love is strange so when coverage really counts, count on nationwide insurance. we put mem
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because femmenista jones, the writer, had created the hashtag, racism ended when, giving credit to bill clinton and even some of their best friends. but this is just more laughing to keep from crying. all of this was the latest example of how a country, our country, is still unable to properly discuss race, in a society increasingly forgettable about structural racism and the way it pervades our nation. we noticed the flashpoints of horror, the shooting of trayvon martin and jordan davis and remeisha mcbride. we produced outrage about the stories is like this one where a 13-year-old girl was placed in protective custody when police didn't believe the two black men when he was traveling with were her legal guardians. no, there isn't any more to that story, they were just standing, waiting for a bus when they were arrested. charges were finally dropped this week, but, listen, far too often, in our public discourse about racism, we get stuck on the individual manifestations of explicit racial bias. and while hurling the n-word may be easy to identify as racist, it might also be the least impactful
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moment ago former secretary of state hillary clinton offered her thoughts. >> nelson mandela will be remembered for many things. he'll certainly be remembered for the way he led, his dignity, his extraordinary understanding, not just of how to brink democracy and freedom to his beloved south africa but how important it was he first brought freedom to himself. >> we'll get thoughts from nobel peace prize laureate after the break. ellie weasel vo: it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. [ m'm... ] great taste. [ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! go
moment ago former secretary of state hillary clinton offered her thoughts. >> nelson mandela will be remembered for many things. he'll certainly be remembered for the way he led, his dignity, his extraordinary understanding, not just of how to brink democracy and freedom to his beloved south africa but how important it was he first brought freedom to himself. >> we'll get thoughts from nobel peace prize laureate after the break. ellie weasel vo: it's that time of year again....
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bush, laura bush, and hillary clinton. bill clinton's traveling separately from rio and jimmy carter will join them in johannesburg as well. only the second time in history that the current president and three former ones are together on foreign soil. also making the trip, texas republican senator ted cruz. senate democrats were asked not to go because of their busy legislative calendar this week. on the house side, aaron schock is leading a 24-member delegation. many of those members are for the congressional black caucus. president obama will speak tomorrow at the service which you can watch right here on msnbc beginning at 4:00 a.m. eastern. that's tomorrow in the morning. we'll be right back after this. d over the taste of starbucks house blend? not that we like tooting our own horn but... ♪ toot toot. [ male announcer ] find gevalia in the coffee aisle or at gevalia.com [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry
bush, laura bush, and hillary clinton. bill clinton's traveling separately from rio and jimmy carter will join them in johannesburg as well. only the second time in history that the current president and three former ones are together on foreign soil. also making the trip, texas republican senator ted cruz. senate democrats were asked not to go because of their busy legislative calendar this week. on the house side, aaron schock is leading a 24-member delegation. many of those members are for...
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and in the fall of clinton's first year in office, with clinton's party in control of the house and of the senate, it actually happened. >> in the east room of the white house today, it was not just an ordinary presidential ceremony, the end of a long road for jim and sarah brady, parents of the brady bill. >> that was a road more than 12 years long. but at last gun control supporters could smile. the brady bill was now law. >> and now we're here to tell the nra that their nightmare is true, we're back. we're not going away after brady. we have a lot to do. >> chuck schumer, a much younger congressman chuck schumer back then and wasn't entirely wrong when he said that. congress did pass and clinton did sign an assault weapons ban months later. when they lost in a landslide in the 1994 midterms, many democrats blamed their gun activism for it. they did so again when al gore lost the white house in 2000. 2004, at sault weapons ban was up for renewal, it was some clamoring from some democrats but republicans were in control on capitol hill by then and the ban expired. when the brady bill
and in the fall of clinton's first year in office, with clinton's party in control of the house and of the senate, it actually happened. >> in the east room of the white house today, it was not just an ordinary presidential ceremony, the end of a long road for jim and sarah brady, parents of the brady bill. >> that was a road more than 12 years long. but at last gun control supporters could smile. the brady bill was now law. >> and now we're here to tell the nra that their...
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former president bill clinton and hillary clinton also expected to attend. no word yet if the clintons will be flying on air force one with presidents obama and bush. we've just learned a spokesman for former president carter also telling nbc he is going to south africa as part of the elders delegation. he will not be on air force one with the obamas. new today in politics, president obama is scheduled to speak this hour about u.s.-israeli relations in the current environment. part of a forum sponsored by the saban center at the brookings institute. other speakers include secretary of state john kerry, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. new today, the president is calling on congress to extend unemployment benefits set to expire on december 28th. >>. >> the nonpartisan congressional budget office predicted allowing them to expire will be a drag on economic growth next year. a report by the department of labor and my council of economic advisors estimated could cost businesses 240,000 jobs. and without the ability to feed their families or pay the bil
former president bill clinton and hillary clinton also expected to attend. no word yet if the clintons will be flying on air force one with presidents obama and bush. we've just learned a spokesman for former president carter also telling nbc he is going to south africa as part of the elders delegation. he will not be on air force one with the obamas. new today in politics, president obama is scheduled to speak this hour about u.s.-israeli relations in the current environment. part of a forum...
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with best intentions and all efforts, president clinton vowed that north korea won't go nuclear. why is this nuclear deal different than any other nuclear deal? >> well, we don't know yet. we don't know yet. >> an honest answer there, but is there any real good answer for that question or did the president nail it? >> i think the president did nail it. it's not very satisfying for folks on either side of this issue. there's a lot of ambiguity. it allows both sides to claim some semblance of victory without any real hard and vast terms here. it's better to think of this as a framework. the president yesterday also said that he thought that as a practical matter, if the deal were to be nailed down and finalized, that it would prevent iran from having the, quote, breakout ability to go and enrich uranium to the point where they would have nuclear bomb capability. however, right after the geneva talks, you heard rouhani from iran say that he thought that what this deal, what this framework did was recognize in the eyes of the world and the international community that iran does have
with best intentions and all efforts, president clinton vowed that north korea won't go nuclear. why is this nuclear deal different than any other nuclear deal? >> well, we don't know yet. we don't know yet. >> an honest answer there, but is there any real good answer for that question or did the president nail it? >> i think the president did nail it. it's not very satisfying for folks on either side of this issue. there's a lot of ambiguity. it allows both sides to claim...